tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8882218549493175550.post9013306800857562008..comments2023-10-30T08:08:14.805-04:00Comments on The Man Version: Voting Maybe, Kinda on Prop 8Christian Waltershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12440318861442751133noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8882218549493175550.post-63390222305895496592009-05-29T22:47:09.499-04:002009-05-29T22:47:09.499-04:00Are you saying you distinguish between fruits and ...Are you saying you distinguish between fruits and vegetables?Artful Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04648424630174405282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8882218549493175550.post-23828246508394037572009-05-28T20:31:37.096-04:002009-05-28T20:31:37.096-04:00Oh sure. You go giving everyone THAT kind of freed...Oh sure. You go giving everyone THAT kind of freedom, and pretty soon you have people having polygamist marriages with their cats. How is immigration gonna deal with THAT?<br /><br />BTW, I'm all about gay rights, but I'll be long dead before I give rights to rutabagas.Christian Waltershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12440318861442751133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8882218549493175550.post-91436078497974179362009-05-28T16:22:35.215-04:002009-05-28T16:22:35.215-04:00Having grown up and lived in CA for many decades b...Having grown up and lived in CA for many decades before finally escaping, let me clarify a point. Their numbering system on ballot measures is the epitome of recycling. Think Prop 13 from several decades ago (you know, the one that started this whole "I don't need a fireman today, so why should I have to pay for one?" thingie). <br /><br />More importantly, the issue of gay marriage, IMHO, is being approached bass-ackwardly. It should not be a matter of "gay rights" "animal rights" or "vegetable rights." The issue should be of separation of church and state. If two people want to form an alliance, they should be able to do so. Done. Period.Over. If those two people want to be recognized by the state, a vehicle of recognition should be available. Let's call it Union. If you want to be recognized by the state as United, then you should follow certain steps, such as getting a license (how else can they charge a fee?), recording public notice, etc. There should be no distinction made between the pious, the non-believing, the "straight" or the gay make-up of the participants. <br /><br />If you want to engage in a religious ceremony, go for it. Let's call that ceremony Holy Matrimony. Having someone in a funny outfit mumble words of assurance over you in an ornately-decorated edifice is your right! However, if the proprietors of that edifice don't want to perform that ceremony because you don't agree with what they stand for, so be it. Likewise, if you do not agree with the standards I set for who my life-long partner might be, do not feel forced to "Marry" someone just like him/her. Don't like gays? Don't feel compelled to marry one. Society will not hold that against you. Don't like blonds? Ditto.<br /><br />BUT! Government does not need to be in the Holy Matrimony business and churches don't need to be in the licensed Unitedness business.<br /><br />Too simple?Artful Dodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04648424630174405282noreply@blogger.com